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Discussing ScienceOnline2010: Four Questions

by Walter Jessen

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There has been a number of posts written about the ScienceOnline2010 conference. Rather than write another one simply about my personal experiences, I thought it would be interesting to have a discussion about the conference with a number of people that both attended in person or via the Internet. Since discussion is often challenging on blogs, I posted four questions about the conference on FriendFeed. I also cross-posted the questions to my personal Twitter account. I loved the idea of using Web 2.0 technologies (social media, blogs) to discuss a conference about science communications. Below is an amalgamation of the discussion that followed.

Science Online 2010 Flickr/Picasa mashup from Graham Steel

What did you think about the Friday food tours/workshops/lab tours?

Walter Jessen

Walter Jessen: I didn’t go to any of the food or lab tours, but I heard some of the lab tours were fun (the DiVE into Alcohol and RTI International tours looked cool). Instead, I went to the Blogging 102 and Podcasting 101 workshops. Both were informative; I found out about a few tools/resources I didn’t know about at the Blogging 102 workshop. In retrospect, I should have attended the workshop Repositories for Fun and Profit as many of the Tweets coming from attendees looked interesting.

Bora Zivkovic

Bora Zivkovic: Hard to sift through all the blog coverage but there were a number of posts that mentioned their experiences at Lab/Museum Tours and they were all very positive. Nancy Shepherd, who organized the tours, has collected posts about each tour and sent the links to the hosts. I wish more people blogged about the tours as we wish to have them again next year (they kinda expect that if they host a bunch of bloggers, they’ll get some coverage in return).

Graham Steel

Graham Steel: ScienceOnline2010 – I wish I was there (my post-conference analysis in the comments section of a recent post by Martin Fenner).

Dorothea Salo

Dorothea Salo: The transportation arrangements failed me, so I didn’t get to the Friday tour I’d signed up for. :( It looked like a really good one, too! Walter, thank you, I’m flattered.

Walter Jessen

Walter: I wish the tours didn’t have to overlap with the workshops; it makes for a difficult choice. Dorothea, you’re welcome (and disappointed we didn’t get a chance to meet).

Graham Steel

Graham: Interview with Moshe Pritsker (JoVE) #scio09

Bora Zivkovic

Bora: The tours did not overlap. Workshops ended at 12noon. Tours started at 2pm. (only coffee overlapped)

Walter Jessen

Walter: Yes, I was thinking of the Food Tours (coffee). Unfortunately, the two lab tours I was interested in were full by the time I checked them out. I won’t make that mistake next year.

Bora Zivkovic

Bora: Here’s [blog posts] on the Duke DiVE, the Raleigh museum, lemurs (here, here and here). There are also lots of images on Flickr from the tours. And Dorthea – next time stay in the hotel with everyone as we had organized transport and hired extra shuttles and made sure nobody was left behind.

Dorothea Salo

Dorothea: I was *at* the hotel. None of the shuttles for the Durham Museum of Life and Science seems to have left from there. Also, I saved you guys $$$ by staying with my parents, so :P .

Bora Zivkovic

Bora: Really – our problem with the Durham museum tour was that the (expensive) shuttle we got for this specific tour was sitting there empty (after the shuttles for other tours already left) while many of the participants organized (without telling us) carpooling among themselves and went directly. Need to check on what happened …

Dorothea Salo

Dorothea: Sounds like ordinary miscommunication. Don’t beat yourself up over it; it happens.

Bora Zivkovic

Bora: Thank you for your understanding, Dorothea.

Dorothea Salo

Dorothea: No worries; I wasn’t aiming to make you feel bad. It was a great conference, and those can’t happen without a bobble here and there.

Bora Zivkovic

Bora: Here’s another [blog post] on Duke DiVE.

Stephanie Willen Brown

Stephanie Willen Brown: The Museum of LIfe & Science tour was AWESOME – Larry the tour guide was quite knowledgeable and the behind-the-scenes look at the animals was a lot of fun. I am going to be join the museum based on that tour and will be taking my husband along with me next time. Images from the @lifeandscience tour are on flickr, thanks to Karyn Traphagen.

Bora Zivkovic

Bora: Larry is on Twitter @larryboles

Bill Hooker

Bill Hooker: I went to Dorothea’s IR workshop in the morning and the Duke Lemur Center in the afternoon, and loved every minute of both! I wish there had been more scientists in the IR session — as per all the recent discussion about librarians and scientists. In re: shuttles, there always seemed to be one just leaving for wherever I wanted to be; I thought they were great.

Steve Koch

Steve Koch: Dorothea’s IR workshop was very informative … If it has been longer than 1 hour, the time would have been used productively. Duke DiVE tour was good, but the format (6 people in the room at once) wasn’t so hot. I would much rather have had 10 minutes to myself, and I would have wanted to look at a 3-D crystal structure, not the alcohol tour. Though it was interesting to see how they’re using it for education.

What did you think about the sessions (scope and presentation)?

Walter Jessen

Walter: The scope of the sessions spanned everything from applications in scientific research, such as Science in the Cloud, to science communications, such as “Science Online Talks Between Generations, to science in society, such as the Science on Radio, TV and Video. From my perspective as a scientist, the conference was dominated by people in science journalism/communication/policy. I thought the Science in the Cloud session was really interesting, especially from a professional point of view. Unfortunately, there were too many interesting sessions that overlapped; I regret not being able to attend the Broader Impact Done Right or Government 2.0.

Bora Zivkovic

Bora: For context (and behind-the-scenes insight) see my own summary.

Walter Jessen

Walter: I really enjoyed the unconference format. Several sessions I attended were mostly a presentation and not nearly as engaging. For the Medical Journalism session that I co-moderated with Karl Bates, we pulled up chairs and invited everyone to sit in the front part of the room. The discussion was great!

Graham Steel

Graham: As per the last two years, I followed events virtually. I thought the scope was very diverse and quite a change from a couple of years ago. I think that’s a good thing. The way that the sessions were divided meant that you could very much tailor the weekend to best suit what the attendee was particularly interested in whilst also getting a chance to learn about subject matters that one didn’t know much about. I’m sure I’m not the only one who is looking forward to watching the official #scio10 video footage once it has been edited and uploaded :) .

Martin Fenner

Martin Fenner: Some sessions had a fairly broad topic. Difficult to cover in 60 minutes.

Steve Koch

Steve: Agree that unconference-style worked the best. The audience discussion in the Science in the Cloud was very informative. I think John Hogenesch did a great job initiating that with the brief example in the beginning followed by opening it up. Walter, your session (Medicine 2.0/Science 2.0) also had a lot of good audience participation, though you had slides throughout. Clearly both worked in terms of engaging the audience, so maybe format isn’t so important as a good moderator and a good collection of people in the audience. I liked the diverse scope of topics. I too had to miss many I’d wanted to attend, but I suppose that’s much better than having a bunch of lousy sessions. Wanted more time between sessions for talking in the hallways!

Cameron Neylon

Cameron Neylon: I like the format of SciOnline – the short presentation – often from a group of people who don’t naturally agree with each other, followed by discussion seems to work really well. But the quality is a little bit too dense I think – I would argue for extending the length and reducing the number of concurrent sessions a little. The catch there is you would have more people in the rooms so maybe discussion wouldn’t be so good. But its a little like SciFoo – you spend the day getting stressed about which sessions you’ve missed and then get home to discover that there were a dozen people you wanted to meet who you never even realized were there.

How was access (livestreaming and social media)?

Walter Jessen

Walter: Since I was there and attended sessions that weren’t being livestreamed, I can’t comment. I did see on Twitter that there was problems with the livestreaming in the morning. There was *a lot* of people using Twitter, which is funny since FriendFeed would have been much better for discussion. When I put together summaries of the sessions I moderated, I also found the #scio10 tag to be rather limited. It was great for the conference overall, but didn’t allow for individual sessions to be identified. Next year, there should be session specific tags so that it’s possible to look up online discussion (which I imagine will be used even more than it was this year).

Dan Hagon

Dan Hagon: I was following online from the UK. When it was available livestreaming worked well and probably better than twitter as twitter feeds can depend quite a bit on what individual interests are being selected. Although it’s difficult for me to judge if it was being used in this way at this particular event, I’d say that twitter works best as a back channel rather than a relay channel. Having said this twitter did provide a bidirectional link – this is possible with ustream but was not heavily used in the end.

Graham Steel

Graham: I also followed events from the UK. I would say that the bar was set extremely high at the same conference two years ago (I had no internet connection during last year’s event so unable to comment on that one). Almost all of the sessions in 2008 were livestreamed and archived immediately on Ustream, cue this recent blog post. Bora, can you confirm what tech. difficulties were encountered this year? I would appreciate this. Thanks.

Martin Fenner

Martin: I wrote a blog post about virtually attending ScienceOnline2010 and Graham’s comment was like a blog post in itself.

Steve Koch

Steve: The conference was the first time I’d found twitter seriously useful. I used it because others were, but I still strongly prefer FriendFeed for discussing things. Overall, wireless access at the conference was great. And live-tweeting/FriendFeeding was quite fun and I definitely think it reinforced ability to take away things from the conference. Wireless at the Radisson and the workshop the first day wasn’t sufficient.

Cameron Neylon

Cameron: I think it worth pointing out that the wireless actually did do the job which is highly unusual. I was there and didn’t follow the livestream. I used Twitter because that seemed to be what everyone else was using but agree with Steve that FriendFeed is my preference. Without wishing to bang the drum – this kind of coverage is something that Wave is extremely good at – but it currently doesn’t provide the public facing interaction in the way one would like. But it is a specific use case that it works well for – particularly if video or slide images can be incorporated.

How much technology was on display?

Walter Jessen

Walter: None, really. This has already been discussed on FriendFeed. Part of the problem was that demos ran concurrently with conference sessions; I like Christina Pikas’ idea to run the demos separately from the sessions, for example during breaks or lunch. I also think a Friday afternoon tech expo would be cool and would attract more geeks to the conference. What types of technology would be of interest to conference participants? Hardware such as laptops or mobile devices? Software demos that focus on communication (such as Google wave or Google sidewiki)?

Graham Steel

Graham: My chips would be on mobile devices and also software demos (preferably OS ones). Like Walter, I also agree with Christina’s idea. Similarly, I also think a Friday tech expo would attract more tech geeks to the Conference.

Bora Zivkovic

Bora: We are reading all these FF threads and jotting down all these ideas. We’ll keep them on the table when we start planning the next one … keep the ideas coming.

Martin Fenner

Martin: There was a lot of technology behind the scenes at #scio10, from SignalShare to all these Web 2.0 tools that we take for granted. I would like to see a few demos of new tools, i.e. those that are almost ready to launch.

Bill Hooker

Bill: Love the tech expo idea. As Graham says, I think mobile devices and software demos would be popular. What might be good is a “linux for n00bs” session or demo, and/or “linux for science”. I often feel a pang of guilt over not having switched to an Open Source OS, but I always feel I can’t afford the time to climb the steep learning curve. Andy Farke gave me a quick tour of his Eee PC running (I forget which) Linux, and showed me that it is not as daunting as I had thought. Crazy idea for a demo: could you set up a small research institute’s IT department (intranet, internet access, storage, backup, all the usual personal and scientific software equivalents) for, say, $1000? $500? How low can you go, using Open Source OS and software and various cheap hardware sources? The demo could consist of a server and several client machines, all running various software as though they were sitting in offices and labs throughout the institute.

Graham Steel

Graham: Brilliant idea, Bill.

Neil Saunders

Neil Saunders: Liking Bill’s idea. And no, Linux is not as daunting as you may think. At one level, it’s no different to using any OS: there’s a desktop, menus containing applications, folders for files – you can use it entirely in a desktop-y, pointy-clicky fashion, just like anything else. I guess the daunting thing is that its full power come through using a terminal and the myriad scripting/language options that come with command-line use.

Steve Koch

Steve: I went to the first demo session (Google Wave, Trixie Tracker, Fish reporting via sms, analysis of collaboration between scientists) and it was fun and stimulating. As a researcher, I love seeing demos that can help me carry out open science. But things I want to see are possibly very specific and many of the other attendees wouldn’t care.

Cameron Neylon

Cameron: I went to some of the demos but I was much more motivated to discuss ideas than tech. Ideas around tech would have been worth my while but a very short introduction to something that was probably quite complex seemed to not provide the opportunity to really dig in properly. So I’d argue for longer demos, perhaps even a sort of “trade show” session where people can wander from demo to demo over the course of an hour or so … ?

Walter Jessen

Walter: Exactly what I was thinking when I suggested a tech expo. Run it all afternoon on Friday — this would provide ample time for participants to see a number of demos and to really “dig in” to those they were interested in. The extended time slot and trade show feel would also allow time for networking between participants (since I think all of us wish there had been more time to meet and talk with others).

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